03.05
NOT! I have to put off my game posts for this one. The number of idiots I have recently still discussing these tired old topic really gets under my skin to the point where I just want to take a fork to each eyeball.
Here is a tasty piece of logic for these 9/11 conspiracy fools(although logic is lost on people like this) If what you’re saying, Mr.Controlled Demolition(they’re also experts in demolition, remember) is that the government of the U.S. had no compunction about killing thousands of people just to invade a god damn desert that has NOTHING in it, then by your way of thinking they should have no problem killing you, your family, or anyone else that spouts their mouths off about how “it was an inside job”. Honestly, they have no issue killing thousands of innocents, but WAIT! The snotnosed college kids that think they’re demolitions experts uncovered their secret plot, and they’re untouchable! That’s just mind boggling to even think that something that could ever BEGIN to make sense. People who write(and PUBLISH) books over 9/11 would A)Not be permitted to have it published if the U.S. government set up the whole bullshit attack, because that would be exposing them. B)The people who even so much whisper too loudly that they think it was a setup would be whisked away in the dead of night and shot.
Yet I get all these people(EXPERTS in demolitions, let me tell you) who have all these half-ass theories that have more holes in them than a thirty year old pair of underwear that have been sitting at the bottom of some lake. Here is what happened on 9/11:
1.A bunch of assholes called “terrorists”, who are bad people that, as their name suggests, like to cause TERROR, hijacked some planes.
2.They hit the towers, one after another, with those planes.
3.Buildings fucking collapse. End of story. People died.
Seriously, is it that hard to believe that bad people exist in this world? Look at the murders that occur daily in the U.S. and tell me you think those are all setups too, in order to make sense. Thank you and good night. Fucking hell…
If i were to say you were gay, and if it were true, and you “silenced” me.. what i said was already out in the open and you taking action against my words will lead more people to believe what i said was true. If you don’t do any action in retaliation to my accusations, people think its just “EXPERTS about gay people” talking, and nothing is really coming from it. Get it?
Just because our government doesn’t take action to prevent those who care to compile information about a sketchy subject, doesn’t make them 100% innocent.
Your opinion, sir, is not correct at every waking moment. So for you to bash other people’s opinions, which they state just as boldly as you do, is just being arrogant.
At least THEY are questioning the control of the government that is “protecting” them and becoming aware of an issue, regardless of it is true or not. By them being aware, they can control more things on a personal level.
It doesn’t hurt to question what may be true. What hurts is acceptance of what may not.
Frozen, after I’ve come to expected comments from you like “I like tacos,” I’m pretty impressed you responded so seriously and intelligently to this. Makes an affiliate proud *tear*
And I gotta say I agree with you, F. Sorry, Eidred, but he makes good points. Besides, 9/11 has some weird shit going on around it. I’m not saying it was all a conspiracy, but there are a lot of unanswered questions. It’s enough to make anyone feel uneasy about the US’s involvement in the event.
David was also totally trolling, or close enough. I can see why people would think this way, but on many sides it doesn’t make any sense. David was just presenting the other side of the argument. One that, since I’m busy a story, I don’t feel like replying to.
If you can easily make the excuse that he is trolling, then, minus the fact that your post is a post, and not a comment, your entire post is also trolling, and Frozen (you said his name!?!? ahhhh! /world) was just replying to it.
He makes a good argument, and although based on your post someone might not think it, there were PLENTY of other things going on besides possible “controlled demolitions”, which really, is the LAST conspiracy theory I would even consider to be true, too.
I’m not saying I believe any of them, but there is also other hard evidence out there that do point to something going on in the background and I wouldn’t toss it out the window that easily. I’m not saying the U.S. did anything, but they could have NOT done something, too, ya know?
The U.S. allowing people to publish books has nothing to do with anything. We have this thing called freedom of speech.
Also, those “God damn deserts that have NOTHING” in them over there do give us a reason to invade..it’s called oil. We use it a lot. And prior to the attacks, we expressed our desire for new government in Afghanistan for an oil pipeline project. I will also add that Mr. GW Bush and family have personal hands in the oil industry, but I won’t say whether these are related, because I do not know.
It is easy to say that the U.S. is okay with people dying. We send people to war all the time, often for silly reasons, don’t we? Casualties are just a normal part of the world. They could have also not expected the results that DID occur on 9/11. I’m pretty sure the terrorists didn’t expect the buildings to fall. But then that could support the whole demolition theory, so who knows. (based on watching videos, I really don’t think the towers had charges set, personally)
I think you’ve been watching too much V for Vendetta. Just because a government might be corrupt in some way doesn’t mean they will raid your room, throw black bags over your head and shoot you in the face.
He’s not trollin! He’s boxxy!
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I’ve actually never watched that movie =/. I wasn’t making an excuse, he said he didn’t actually mean the post. Ask yourself this:what have we gained? Nothing. We have trillion dollars in debt, much of which is attributed to the war, we have had over 30,000 U.S. soldiers wounded, and 4300 or so of them killed as of December 2009. So, you’re basically telling me we made some elaborate excuse to go over to Iraq to gain NOTHING? The U.S. can’t even keep their lies about global warming a secret : P let alone something of this nature. But hey, people are entitled to believe what they will I suppsose.
Also, Frozen, it’s not arrogant to state my opinion because by your thinking, I’m entitled to it just as much as they are. If you don’t like my opinion, that’s fine, but I’m not going to change it just because nobody likes it. It’s better than going along with some half-baked theory about the government setting it up so we could go to a country that has fewer resources than we do. Do you not believe bad people exist in this world? FYI, terrorism has been around since before 9/11, and no one blamed it on the government then. I find it really difficult to believe the U.S. would do something like this, considering they only take action when they find it to their gain. If we were benefiting from this war, I may consider the “setup” theory, but because we have a massive national debt generated by the war, too many dead soldiers, and absolutely nothing to show for our efforts aside from a weak ass government we’ve set up over there, I don’t believe a word of it.
I wish comments had an edit button >.<. There may have been oil in Iraq, but there’s also oil in Alaska. Assloads of it. Probably more than Iraq has. But instead of drilling there and in other places that we don’t have to kill people over, we’d rather go start a war? o.O
You keep saying Iraq…We didn’t invade Iraq until March 2003, and that was because Mr. Bush and Co. thought that they had nuclear weapons, so we tried to prove it.. and we wanted to apprehend Saddam (because, remember, he threatened to kill George’s “daddy”) and maybe he supported terrorism or al-Quaeda or something, who knows.. also to spread democracy/”free the Iraqi people”, which is I guess why we’re still there?
Either way, AFGHANISTAN is where we invaded after 9/11, because we thought they were harboring Osama Bin Laden (remember that guy?), who is the head of al Quaeda, and the “mastermind” behind the attacks. See my previous post for other reasons to do this.
It’s funny how everyone sort of forgets about Afghanistan because of Iraq and all the publicity and news coming from there. But then again, it could make sense for Bush to push towards the Iraq invasion if for some reason he didn’t want the public’s eye on Afghanistan. ehhh? See how asking questions sometimes makes things make more sense?
Oh right, Afghanistan. At any rate, the terrorists released a video stating that “we will bomb again” years ago. Now, you’ll probably go “that could have been fabricated by our government” but you can draw the conclusion that if Osama said “AGAIN”, can you not make the conclusion they had done it once already? But of course, that video is always fake in the eyes of conspiracy theorists.
I find this all hard to believe really. http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm despite this being a “.gov” site, I find this shit far more plausible than the half-baked theories out there. It makes some scientific sense.
I guess I’m not explaining myself correctly. I never meant to imply that I think the US Gov’t actually flew the planes into the towers. Of course the terrorists did it, I have no doubt in my mind about that. I was saying, it would be easy to think that the U.S. could have done something to prevent it, but didn’t by choice, or something along those lines.
It’s similar to theories about WWII and Pearl Harbor. Some think that we knew or at least had very good reason to believe that Japan would strike, but we chose not to say anything or take preventative measures, which resulted in many people dying. However, this strike on American soil gave us a reason to enter the war, it made the American people support it, or at the very least understand why we would retaliate in some way. Same could be said for 9/11.
Now, I can’t completely disagree with you, because there are always going to be some crazy, ridiculous, not very well thought out conspiracies made up by attention hungry people, and yes, they can be annoying, but that doesn’t mean there are some with strong evidence that are at least plausible. I enjoy these, they can be rather interesting, whether true or not.
And again, I’m not saying anything I say is true or not true, cause I don’t want to sound like the crazy conspiracy theory guys who live on the internet in their mother’s basement or something. I also don’t want to sound like I don’t trust the government, cause I do, I just find some stuff like this interesting, and I like keeping an open mind to possibilities.